U.S. state of Georgia looks at closing loophole allowing children to marry

  • 17.11.2005 um 01:10
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U.S. state of Georgia looks at closing loophole allowing children to marry

(AP) - ATLANTA-Ever since her 13-year-old niece wed a 14-year-old boy last year, Sharon Cline has sent lawmakers a slew of letters begging them to change a Georgia law that allows children of any age to marry - without parental consent - if the bride-to-be is pregnant.

"Some of the lawmakers just didn't believe this could happen," said Cline, who lives in Weston, Florida. "It was very frustrating."

They're believers now.

Lisa Lynnette Clark, 37, was charged last week in Gainesville with child molestation for allegedly having a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old friend of her teenage son. Just days before her arrest, she wed the boy under a Georgia law that allows pregnant couples to marry regardless of age and without consent.

Disturbed by the child groom, Georgia lawmakers may soon debate changing a law that many didn't know even existed. Geared toward preventing out-of-wedlock births, the law dates back to at least the early 1960s.

"I never knew it was in the code until this morning," Jerry Keen, majority leader in Georgia's legislature, said Tuesday.

Most U.S. states require minors to get their parents' permission before they marry. And if a person is 16 or under, many states also require court approval.

Keen and other leaders in the Republican-controlled Georgia legislature stopped short of endorsing a change to the state's marital requirements.

Instead, Keen said, the state's Republican lawmakers will focus on passing stricter penalties for those convicted of child molestation.

Democratic lawmakers, who are now in the minority after more than a century in power, may hope a proposal to change the marriage standards will drive a wedge in the Republican majority.

State lawmaker Karla Drenner said she plans to author a bill that would bar children under age 16 from marrying regardless of the circumstances.

As the only openly gay elected official in Georgia's state government, Drenner said the irony of the lax marriage standards for minors is not lost upon her - particularly a year after lawmakers passed a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

"We're protecting society from the perceived threat of homosexual marriage, which was already illegal," she said. "But yet if you're pregnant, you can get married - and it doesn't matter if you're 9 years old or 10 years old."

Meanwhile, the family of the 15-year-old who married the 37-year-old Clark doesn't seem to be celebrating the couple's marital bliss. The boy's grandmother, Judy Hayles, said in a TV interview that her skin crawls when she thinks of Clark.

"I don't want to see her. I don't want to hear her. I don't even like to see her ugly mugshot on TV," Judy Hayles said on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Hayles, who wants to get the marriage annulled, said Clark's attorney has said she intends to stay married to her grandson.

That will happen, the grandmother said, "when I'm laid out and candle lit."

http://news.findlaw.com/ap/p/56/11-16-2005/b11200116710cd1e.html

:awcrap: :nuts: :awcrap:

Greetings
Michael
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 10:16
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it just makes me sick :puke:
i think it's inresponsible to allow kids, and that's what they are at this age, to get married.they can't grasp what they are about to do or what consequences it will have for their future :eek: it should be changed right away.
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 11:07
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@garfiledshome
English only!
But anyway, I agree with you, this has to be changed immediately. Besides that, I got the impression that over the years marrying became a too modern thing. You know, couples getting married just for the fun of it. It just happens too often. No wonder every 3rd or so marriage gets divorced after some years. In my opinion, being married to somebody means staying with him/her forever, because I still consider marriage an unbreakable bound. Divorces should only be made when the husband suddenly starts beating his wife or so. People shouldn't get married only cuz "they feel like it".
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 13:34
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already edited it to english! :)
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 13:38
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HI,

I always thought, that sexual interaction between minors is prohibitted by law. Is there an exception if both are maried or does a such a nationwide law not exist?

Greetings

Klaus
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 13:55
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chris015 schrieb:
@garfiledshome
English only!
But anyway, I agree with you, this has to be changed immediately. Besides that, I got the impression that over the years marrying became a too modern thing. You know, couples getting married just for the fun of it. It just happens too often. No wonder every 3rd or so marriage gets divorced after some years. In my opinion, being married to somebody means staying with him/her forever, because I still consider marriage an unbreakable bound. Divorces should only be made when the husband suddenly starts beating his wife or so. People shouldn't get married only cuz "they feel like it".

GOOOOD POST!!

First of all, it's about time to change the law about marriage between minors and/or beeing pregnant gives you the right to marry, no matter how old you are... I am still wondering what happened to the Kids these days. I had my first boyfriend with 17. At, lets say 13, I didn't even thing about boys and DEFINETALY (s/p?) not about getting married!!! :eek:
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 14:24
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chris015 schrieb:
@garfiledshome
English only!

No wonder every 3rd or so marriage gets divorced after some years.

Chris...it's kind of scary, but in the US, it's more like every OTHER marriage.

In other words, you have a 50% chance of getting divorced.
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 14:35
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Yes Caesar, here in Germany this scary trend goes into this direction as well. Here the correct number is 2.5, as far as I know. I think I typed 3 automatically as I can't even believe it's about a 50/50-chance not to get divorced.
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 14:59
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Well, my goal is to keep my beautiful wife for the rest of my life!
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 15:16
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  • 17.11.2005 um 15:19
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Still very, very sad numbers, Klaus. I am sure the numbers are much worse in the US. I think it's a tragedy, IMHO.
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 16:18
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this is sick.
The deteriation of the fundametals of marriage.
It just comes to show , that there are too many liberal judges in this country destroying the core , the sactuary of marriage.
Also, were are the parents of these CHILDREN?????
Not only is there live and future destroyed, there children will be most likely a burden of society.
You can not tell me, they will finish school and get themselfs into college.
Insane.
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 16:38
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solaris schrieb:
this is sick.
The deteriation of the fundametals of marriage.
It just comes to show , that there are too many liberal judges in this country destroying the core , the sactuary of marriage.
Also, were are the parents of these CHILDREN?????
Not only is there live and future destroyed, there children will be most likely a burden of society.
You can not tell me, they will finish school and get themselfs into college.
Insane.

hello solaris,

i am so with you...

my favorite topic to gay marrige is, which they call now "same sex" marriage. where will that end???
sister marries sister, brother marries father??? daughter marries mother??and so on.

greetings
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 16:40
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heiner schrieb:
hello solaris,

i am so with you...

my favorite topic to gay marrige is, which they call now "same sex" marriage. where will that end???
sister marries sister, brother marries father??? daughter marries mother??and so on.

greetings

then you really like my new thread in the political section, called the * the basic destruction .....* check it out.
It will sure rouse some tempers, but the ones the hollor the loudest????
HAHAHAA.
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 20:37
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What this woman did is statutory rape. For that case it should have never been possible for her to marry this child! SHE is the adult, SHE should have had the brains for both of them even if the boy was willing.

Hope she spends some time in prison for that. But I also hope that they will change the laws considering underage marriage.
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 20:40
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solaris schrieb:
It will sure rouse some tempers,

Just a curious question:

Is this the only purpose of this thread?

Anma
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 20:44
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I still dont see what the marriage between adult people of the same sex has to do with children being married ? Its like comparing "aepfel mit Birnen". I think even Georgia would not allow the marriage of two lts say twelve year old gays....( where is the rolling eyes smiley when I need one)
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 21:27
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It doesn't have anyhting to do with this topic, but when marriage comes up that is usually what you associate with it - the trivialization of it, the divorces, the gay marriages. It's a knee jerk reaction.
it is time that this loophole gets closed btw. It becomes a shelter for criminal behavior.
(this is an example of my intolerance btw - if I was aquainted with that woman, she would not dare show her face around *my* house)
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 21:46
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Anma schrieb:
Just a curious question:

Is this the only purpose of this thread?

Anma

I don't think that was Michu's intention when he started this thread. But looking thru most of the recent threads in the English only politics forum I sure have the feeling that a lot of times they got started to "have a war of words" (to quote solaris from another thread), to rouse tempers and to bash anybody who is not a hardcore conservative. That's why I'm staying out of those threads and this will be my only posting to all this. It's just a good thing we have a politics forum in the English only section now. It sure gets a lot of use, I guess people were a kind of waiting for this.
 
  • 17.11.2005 um 22:00
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why don' you want to participate? other than solaris occassional outbursts, i think we are quite civil.
 
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