Manchester United Rumours

09 Jun 2024 21:48:13
Evening Ed, who is United's first choice CF option for the Summer window.

Thank you.

{Ed002's Note - They have looked at many players and decided on one - but he will look to move to MIlan. They will need to settle on a player who is willing to start on the bench. Joshua Zirkzee (S) Manchester United had a third-party scout watch him in a game against Roma in December and they decided on Zirkzee as their preferred option. Milan has declared an interest knowing Giroud is coming to the end of his contract but don't know if Zirkzee will match his goal tally - and they offer the preferred solution for the player. Bayern Munich have an option to buy the player back but will likely not be interested in following up on it. Napoli offer an option when Osimhen moves. Arsenal have two preferred choices but could turn to Zirkzee and Kia is keen on a move to London. Player will not move to become cover or second choice likely ruling out Juventus.

Youssef En-Nesyri (S) Seen as a cheap option for West Ham, Manchester United and Aston Villa, but the player could be open to Mr Emenalo's offer to take him to Al-Hilal.}

10 Jun 2024 08:57:51
Many thanks Ed. Who was the player that they decided on but is moving to Milan?

{Ed002's Note - What - have yo reda the answer?}

10 Jun 2024 09:16:35
LOL Scholesey, a long paragraph on him right there.

10 Jun 2024 09:30:50
Thanks for info spelling out first choice Ed002, very much appreciated.

10 Jun 2024 12:04:35
How embarrassing… Sorry Ed. I read your response as ‘first choice not available so the next options are…’.

Thanks for the reply!

10 Jun 2024 13:26:57
Think E002 must like you Scholesy: when I did a similar thing a few years back, I was given a stinging rebuke!

10 Jun 2024 13:56:47
I imagine that’s my extra-life now used, Wallace….

10 Jun 2024 14:09:57
Well Zirkzee (along with Branthwaite) haven't made the final Euro squads, so potentially all that gumf about focusing on the national team and waiting until the tournament has ended might not apply if we're in for either of these.

07 Jun 2024 13:42:34
All kinds of reports about greenwood going to Juve. He will do very well there if true and great move for him to a massive club. Hope we get good value for him.

07 Jun 2024 13:52:02
Loan was a good decision by the hierarchy last summer, probably best to get this situation over and done with this summer for final, whatever the club does in this situation they will be criticised.

07 Jun 2024 14:47:18
Its an all around good outcome. let the guy get on with his life and his football and hopefully we get decent value. He is a tremendous talent. Better than all our current forwards and wingers imo. Good luck to him.

07 Jun 2024 17:20:39
Tremendous talent Ahmad, trash person. Hope he falls flat on his face 🤞🏼.

07 Jun 2024 17:57:51
Agree with all of the above.

At the time Greenwood was just breaking through I thought we were set for 10 years with the trio of Rashford / Martial / Greenwood. For very different reasons it hasn't worked out.

I wish him the best and hope he and his partner are happy going forward.

07 Jun 2024 19:11:12
I am quite happy to see him achieve some form of redemption. I don't generally expect high moral character from teenagers who have too much money and have come from poor backgrounds.

07 Jun 2024 21:02:04
Two years ago we had two stellar English strikers in Rashy and Greenwood. A shame what’s happened to both in terms of Utd but Greenwood can forge a very successful career away from the glare of the English press elsewhere. Might even get to a point where the next English manager/ potter/ poch has to have a think.

07 Jun 2024 21:14:58
Doesn’t deserve any redemption and he background was fine noting to do with how he grew up

Guys vile and doesn’t deserve a move to any big club.

{Ed025's Note - im with you Bolger..

07 Jun 2024 22:16:12
I don't think he gets near the England setup under any manager, no matter how he plays. MEngland so not need that kind of negative publicity.

08 Jun 2024 08:20:17
He screwed up the opportunity to become a club legend but we will never truly know all the facts to be fair. Best for him to move, hopefully a decent fee for us and a sell on clause just to be wise.

08 Jun 2024 15:17:27
To say the morality is low linked to poor background? Shawthing?

08 Jun 2024 15:23:05
Really good player will do well wherever he goes. I wish him every success. England's loss which is always nice😆.

06 Jun 2024 08:12:36
Hi Ed002, do you know if PSG or any other club are showing any interest in Rashford?

{Ed002's Note - Marcus Rashford (LW/F) Much will depend on what happens in the summer regarding a new coach, but I am sure Manchester United will be regretting the new long-term contract. A third-party has spoken to clubs, including Juventus and Arsenal about him on behalf of Manchester United, but I am not aware of any serious interest and both clubs have other targets. Spurs may offer a wildcard solution to replace Richarlison. Suggestion that he could be a Mbappe replacement at PSG seem far-fetched given they have other clear targets in mind.}

06 Jun 2024 09:44:59
Speaking of Richarlison I’d take him as a replacement for Martial.

{Ed002's Note - Not an option.}

06 Jun 2024 12:04:04
Disappointing news but not surprising. Useless, lazy no-hoper for mega money is always going to be a tough sell.

Thank you Ed002.

06 Jun 2024 12:32:05
If Richarlison was any good, Spurs wouldn’t be looking to sell him. Would be a terrible signing.

06 Jun 2024 13:24:12
Some days players work out some don’t Richarlison is a fine player and would be good back up at most teams. I’d take him over Gabriel Jesus.

06 Jun 2024 15:32:29
Lazy no hoper mancman? You okay mate?

06 Jun 2024 16:26:40
I'm fine angel. I'm talking about the guy I saw strolling around the pitch for the whole of last season doing sweet FA. You remember him?

07 Jun 2024 07:17:22
Ah yeah that lazy no hoper that scored 30 goals the year before?

07 Jun 2024 07:44:39
Agree with MancMan, just because he had a spell of doing well one season doesn’t make him immune to criticism, Rash has done next to nothing not just this season but other long spells too. I can forgive anyone not playing well or having a barren run but that empathy doesn’t extend to being lazy, not running back, not working hard and giving off the impression he can’t be bothered when he’s taking home that money. Why this lad gets defended is beyond me, he’s one of the common denominators in why we have had a toxic dressing room down the managers, he isn’t world class, he’s not even starting eleven class, and I too am sick of seeing this guy take the mick out of us by pretending he cares and whining on social media, it’s fairly simple Rash, start putting a shift in and working hard and guess what the criticisms will stop, man we had Wout Weghorst who couldn’t hit a barn door but least he gave effort and got appreciated for it,

07 Jun 2024 09:57:50
I'm watching a different Rashford then all these years. Other long spells?

I don't mund criticism, but lazy no hoper? WTF is that all about.

07 Jun 2024 10:29:00
So you would have Wout instead of Rash? Interesting. And, why would you chase back when under orders not to?

07 Jun 2024 11:18:54
I never understand why people talk about Rashford like he's had one good season and been rubbish the rest of the time. He's had two bad seasons out of the last 5, last season, when the entire team was poor, and the other was when he was playing through injury for a good chunk of the season, in a team which was playing badly as a whole, and basically imploded halfway through the season after Ragnick came in.

The season before that he was also playing through injury for a chunk of the season and was still one of our better players, finishing with 21 goals in all competitions. He played pretty well the season before that too, finishing with 22 goals.

Go back further and the numbers aren't especially impressive, but he was a youngster then, and doing pretty respectably for his age.

So in reality he's only had one really exceptional season, but he's only actually had two genuinely bad seasons, both of which were when the team as a whole was particularly bad.

He may not be world class, and perhaps he's a bit too susceptible to the mood and form of the team around him, but he's still a good player, and if the team is settled, happy and playing well, he'll more than carry his weight.

It would be nice if he was the type who will turn around a season single-handedly, and carry the team through the bad patches, but he isn't, and that doesn't mean he is no good and should be got rid of. Few players can do that, after all.

He is the type who shines when the team as a whole as doing well, and that's exactly where we want to be.

07 Jun 2024 13:41:02
No what I’m saying is at least Wout worked hard, Rash doesn’t even try. Rash has had many spells like this aswell, I will forgive anyone for poor form but when you don’t try, work for your team mates or run, then no, I won’t defend it. Anyone that thinks Rash deserves to play for united still needs to have a hard think. It’s this type of accepting mediocrity only we are mediocre, can’t have passengers like Rash stinking up the squad I don’t care if he’s a local lad. Yes his numbers was impressive on a couple of occasions but a this club you mot only need to maintain levels but have more about you than being susceptible to others being poor, he’s not poor because others are poor around him, he’s poor because his attitude sucks.

07 Jun 2024 14:40:43
Angel, I used to be able to do many things I no longer can or want to.

I used to be different than I am now.

You're talking about the player Rashford used to be or was for a short while.

I'm talking about the Rashford I saw recently and he was pants.

07 Jun 2024 21:26:54
The notion that any player in the modern game is instructed not to chase back is crazy. Only one player has had that luxury in the last decade, Lionel Messi.

05 Jun 2024 13:06:07
After reports yesterday of the bid made for neves today the reports are saying we've made an offer for Leny Yoro not said if accepted or declined and report is from the Madrid journo who is quite reliable so maybe Madrid putting it out so their fans don't wonder why he potentially signs for us.

05 Jun 2024 15:37:37
Dare say we’re being used as a pawn by his agent to get Madrid to hurry up.

05 Jun 2024 17:38:27
Utd still serially underbidding for players? Understand not going in with your final offer first thing and underbidding as a negotiation tactic etc, but at what point does a bid become derisory.

05 Jun 2024 19:28:34
Underbidding? None of us know the fact's, so can only go on rumour.

It is reported that Lille value Yoro at approx 60m euros and we have reportedly offered 60m euros!

That does not seem anything other than a very fair offer to me, indeed more than you would expect from a first offer, and if true show's the seriousness of our interest. Supposedly, Madrid are only prepared to pay 40m euros.

If any of the foregoing is true it would suggest a very different approach from the previous regime.

{Ed002's Note - Lille are not selling Yoro for €60M.}

05 Jun 2024 19:42:40
Fuser, we’re also likely to have a poster complaining about paying over the odds in the same thread. A player is only worth what a club is willing to pay for him.

We’re also going to hear “smoke screen” and “exactly what we need” multiple times a day until the window shuts.

Roll on 1st September.

05 Jun 2024 20:23:46
I have not seen any reputable source reporting we have bid on yoro.
Bit like the other lad I think we did put in a bid for, Neves. Another teenager.
I've not seen yoro play ever I'm not sure many have, neves I've seen glimpses. Eye-watering fees for unproven potential and a squad on its knees.
Sep 1st can't come quick enough I agree.

05 Jun 2024 21:10:43
Yoro going to do an Mbappe to move to Real. No point getting involved.

05 Jun 2024 23:21:20
Grim it's a possibility.
I'd like to think if lille developed him from a kid that he would sign a new contract with a reasonable release clause that Madrid can trigger next year so the club get much needed fee even if its not their valuation. At his age the riches will come if he is staring for Madrid so I know my thoughts are slightly idealistic loyalty to his club must count for something.

06 Jun 2024 02:09:45
IWOTB not just Yoro (Lille want nearer to €100m but will likely settle around 80) but I meant with Neves too (bidding half what Benfica values him at) . Utd have always underbid massively and then ended up overpaying in the end. Thought it might have changed with the new structure. Utd bid £51m initially for Anthony and ended up paying £85m.

06 Jun 2024 09:49:25
I’d rather have Silva for that money! Plus get Neves and Inacio too while in Lisbon.

04 Jun 2024 14:03:39
Hello Eds,
Can you kindly shed some light on these rumors.
Is Goncalo Inacio a main target for us and is he an alternative to Branthwaite or are both wanted.
After reports of a rejected bid for Joao Neves for a reported amount of 51mil, can Utd afford to bid higher considering financial constraints and the need for other signings? Or will someone like Hjulmand be considered instead of Neves?
Is Frankie de Jong one of the main names considered to replace Casemiro at utd?

{Ed002's Note - Goncalo Inacio (CB) Watched by scouts from a number of PL sides, including Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United, with each declaring an interest. Sporting will not be keen to do business with Liverpool although the club could potentially arrange to pay his full Release Clause in a single payment and force the situation if the player is interested - and that seems a strong possibility. The other sides to declare an interest are Newcastle and PSG, but PSG have a plan over another player but it is looking unlikely he will join - so Inacio might become the focus. Real Madrid offer a wildcard option. Sporting would rather not sell and are looking to a further new contract and an increased release clause. Newcastle have held talks with Sporting in order to be able to speak directly to the player and to understand if there is flexibility in the payment schedule – but there isn't. Arsenal interest would have departed with the signing of Timber although it has returned with the injury to Timber and impending departures. They are actively seeking talks with Sporting. The player has also been offered to Chelsea by his agent when discussing another player, but they have preferred options for a long-term Silva replacement although do have an interest in Inacio's CB partner Diomande. Arsenal have made a tentative offer that has been rejected. The player's agent has also said that Inacio is open to a move to Manchester United and they may push depending on departures, but he is not first choice.
Jarrad Branthwaite (CB) Everton want a new contract but Spurs, Manchester United and Newcastle have an interest. Ancelotti has spoken to Solari about him and scouts were sent to watch him against Newcastle, but Solari is not convinced that English players settle well on the continent. Manchester United will likely need a complete rebuild at CB with departures in the summer and so he will likely be an option. Spurs have a need for a CB. Newcastle has a compelling need to add one or two younger CBs. A wildcard would be Manchester City.
Joao Neves (DM/CM) Discussed with Chelsea when meeting over another player as they were seeking a replacement for Loftus-Cheek. Potential Casemiro replacement for Manchester United. Huge buy out clause and Benfica will not look to sell but recognise there will be growing interest and will insist that the buy out clause is met. Liverpool and Manchetser City have sent scouts. Versatile but falls over easily. I expect Manchester United to push even having a first offer rejected.
Matthijs de Ligt (CB) Player was happier with Tuchel as coach but changes make his future less clear. In the unlikely event that ten Hag is still at Manchester United he may well be interested but he would not be top of the list at all. Bayern have no interest in selling although they are persisting in chasing another CB themselves. He is not a Casemiro alternative.
Joao Neves (DM/CM) Discussed with Chelsea when meeting over another player as they were seeking a replacement for Loftus-Cheek. Potential Casemiro replacement for Manchester United. Huge buy out clause and Benfica will not look to sell but recognise there will be growing interest and will insist that the buy out clause is met in full. Liverpool and Manchetser City have sent scouts. Versatile but falls over easily. I expect Manchester United to push even having a first offer rejected.
Morten Hjulmand (DM/CM) Arrived from Lecce in the summer of 2023 - not available unless an offer that meets his huge release clause is made - and even then the player may not be interested in a move so soon after joining. Arsenal are looking at Elneny and Jorginho leaving as Free Agents in the summer and have sent scouts. He is also seen as an option for Manchester United but currently not first choice. Spurs interest has gone. Barcelona may propose some horse trading. Will stay where he is for now.}

04 Jun 2024 14:21:20
Thanks ED002.

04 Jun 2024 15:09:08
Wow, so much info, Much appreciated Ed. !
Did you mean De jong is not a Casemiro alternative?

{Ed002's Note - Sorry. Frenkie de Jong (CM/DM) Barcelona will look for a new contract with reduced wages else he will be sold in the summer with possible interest remaining from Manchester United if ten Hag stays. PSG have spoken with his agent and additionally his agent has raised his availability with Chelsea whist discussing another player and with Arsenal - but beither is interested and the wages are huge.}

04 Jun 2024 16:31:35
Does anyone remember who our first choice CB target is? I remember Ed mentions we have Goncalo Inacio, Jarrad Branthwaite, Trevor Chalobah and Antonio Silva as our CB targets but I can't seem to remember who our first choice is.
I think it was Antonio Silva but I could be wrong.

{Ed002's Note - Inacio, Silva (but hugely expensive) or Gleison Bremer.}

04 Jun 2024 16:39:45
Wow! Ed002 does it again. Thanks Ed!

04 Jun 2024 20:10:04
So Neves is the answer then 👍.

05 Jun 2024 00:00:02
I've not seen too much of him jimbob. Hoping to see him during the euros. I hope we can agree a deal soon having had a bid rejected you'd hope can get back in there quickly to get a feedback agreed, from what I've read he seems to be very highly regarded.
Have you seen much of him?

05 Jun 2024 02:22:32
Utd know what it’ll take to get Neves, €110m lump sum up front. Not too sure Benfica will have much wiggle room with it given the amount of clubs interested in him. There’s also many clubs interested in Silva so they’ll have a choice of which one they want to sell and it’ll probably be the one they get the highest offer for.

05 Jun 2024 02:28:48
Unless we make sales before June 30th I can’t see us giving them the amount being quoted.

05 Jun 2024 08:09:16
Outside of a few internationals and European matches, I haven't extensively watched him. But from what I have seen, he would certainly complement Mainoo and Bruno in a 3 man mid.

As I've previously mentioned, I personally thought we missed a beat with Bellingham, I think from what is out there, Neves is the next best thing. He also is a long term signing, not a short term plug, which is again my preference.

05 Jun 2024 01:26:47
Thanks for the info Ed!
Have a good day.

05 Jun 2024 09:01:10
Are these young foreign players really long term though? Saw a comment here Neves / Silva would be the future for next 10 years but these days PortugeseSpanish lads will be off after a couple of years once Barca/ RM come calling- exceptions to it of course.